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...on other frameworks seems to be a frequent characteristic of government filings - of Kenya previously and of Libya in the Gaddafi and Al Senussi cases. It's not simply a case of bad lawyering - many of these filings are signed by well-established international criminal law and/or public international law figures. Alexander David K charitably commented: "It’s not simply a case of bad lawyering – many of these filings are signed by well-established international criminal law and/or public international law figures." The second part of this assessment is certainly true....

...some brainstorming in reply to Mr Anderson: The recognition by only France shouldn't have an effect on third States, I think. But from Frances point of view, none of Libya's international rights (treaty or customary) can be invoked by Gaddafi's regime any more but instead "the rebels" may raise claims and negotiate with France, render agreements with binding effect on Libya, call upon the ICJ etc. Consequentially, from France's view, providing assistance to the rebells would not amount to a violation of Libya's sovereignty. France might find the arms embargo...

...value as the legal arguments of dictators. Whatever Gaddafi or Mubarak said, it was the ultimate legal argument. Joe Response... "Whatever he says is legal." That is a bit much. The book you cited is listed as being published in 1990 on Amazon. The look inside the book backs that up. Is there an earlier edition? Albéniz “If there is anything inconsistent between what I said in a footnote when I was 29 and what I said now" Easy way out. The problem is that many of his inconsistent views...

...a charge, if it has been established by the PTC. Can such a decision even be overruled? In either case, a bit of bad-mouthing from the likes of Gaddafi and indictee Al-Bashir, is not going to be legitimate grounds for an overhaul of a Chamber judgment. Francesco Messineo I think this post conflates individual criminal liability (what the ICC is concerned with) with the finding that a state has committed an internationally wrongful act (something the ICC is not called upon to decide, nor could it be called upon to...

...pardon of accountability in the U.S. domestic setting does not end the discussion. Rather it evidences the failure of complementarity, calling us to seek international tribunals as a solution. I would prefer that the United States not find itself in a situation where it would have its leaders hailed before international criminal tribunals if possible. The United States court system has sufficient independence and neutrality to be able to address criminality at the highest level of the United States in a manner that is both fair and just. Moreover, given...

...avoids prosecuting its own officials and soldier for anything of consequence. It also undermines what is, I think, one of the few legitimate US concerns about the ICC -- namely, that although the Rome Statute is based on the principle of complementarity, the Court has the final say over whether a state is "willing" to prosecute its own nationals. Given how evidently unwilling the US is to do so, the US position seems -- wrongly -- like little more than a demand for the right to act (or not act)...

...judge will assert jurisdiction over something that should be left to the domestic political process of another country" True enough. But in the Spanish example the Courts will only act when no action has been taken by a more appropriate forum (essentially an application of the complementarity principle) and the fact is that, certainly in the China example, no action has been taken at home - not even a "domestic political process/bargain" such as an amnesty or a TRC. That being the case I wonder if exercises of universal jurisdiction...

...easy one not involving complex questions of Complementarity, proportionality etc.. Aeyal Gross Also by the way one can argue the PA won't care much for Hamas people being at the dock, but that could be politically wrong (or right). Zach I have to agree with André. Article 12(3) can only be utilized by non-states parties. However, Palestine could presumably file a declaration first and then ratify the Statute. I don't believe that ratification would nullify the declaration. Another interesting strategy that the Palestinian government could employ is ratification with an...

...the principle of complementarity, has been favoured publicly by the ICC prosecutor who sees the ICC for state parties as a court of last resort. The ICC prosecutor cannot as such investigate these cases as the UK is willing and able to prosecute crimes falling covered by the ICC statute. Thus the decision has much less to do with pro western policy and number of victims.... Matthew Gross I don't think the evidence would bear any prosecutions of US officials in Operation Condor. Those documents so far obtained show little...

...all, I think the U.S. delegation did a credible job of protecting U.S. interests at the conference. Guy2 "All in all, I think the U.S. delegation did a credible job of protecting U.S. interests at the conference" - if one considers US interests as being the interests of impunity, I agree. Why in the world would the US consider prosecuting these crimes according to the complementarity principle as contrary to its interests?! This is something I will never understand. In the medium term (say, 30 years), the US stands to...

...complementarity principle? (Which the Ugandan courts do not, at least yet.) Problems like these are why the ICC should not allow self-referrals. Matthew Happold Is the ICC blocking peace in northern Uganda? Much of the blame lies with the Ugandan Government, which referred the situation to the ICC (not least to "internationalise" the conflict and put pressure on the LRA) and for some time now has been saying one thing to the Court and external observers, and another to the LRA and its internal constituency. On the other hand, the...

Erlend Julian I am certainly no expert on ICL, but regarding your comment as to whether the ICC Statute allows for "substitutions like this"... as the ICC hardly owns the conflict, wouldn't this (hypothetically) rather be a question of complementarity or ne bis in idem from an ICC-point of view? Or possibly a problem of dual jurisdiction (and a possibly very interesting case of fragmentation of IL)?...