09 Jun Lederman’s Critique of Bellinger’s Speech and an Interview with an Interrogator
Over at Balkinization, Marty Lederman has posted a thorough critique of John Bellinger’s recent speech. Lederman takes a nuanced view of what it is the Administration has said, versus what was forced upon the Administration by the Supreme Court and finds that Bellinger’s speech sometimes reads more like an alternate -reality of what might have been had the State Department won more inter-agency debates earlier on. Another great piece by Lederman.
And, while you’re at it, you may want to listen to this interview from the Leonard Lopate show from WNYC. (Scroll down to the specific segnment.) Lopate interviewed Tony Lagouranis, a former Abu Ghraib interrogator and author of the memoir Fear Up Harsh. Besides debunking the ubiquitous “ticking timb bomb” scenario, towards the end of the interview (ironically at about minute 24) he said:
“We were trained according to Geneva and now we were being asked to be creative and torture people. So we turned to the only source we had for that which was television programs” like 24.
The rest of the interview from that point takes apart one argument after another supporting torture and physical abuse of detainees with a particulalry interesting comparison to US interrogation techniques in World War II.
Admitting your wrongdoing and setting the record straight. Now that is bravery.