Responsible Stakeholders and Revisionist States

Responsible Stakeholders and Revisionist States

The recent visit of Hu Jintao to the U.S. highlights an interesting game of mirrors being played by the U.S., China, the EU and others concerning the norms of good behavior of members of the international community. A few months ago, Deputy Secretary of State Robert Zoellick called on China to be a “responsible stakeholder” in the international system. Commentators have noted that this is perhaps the best single description we have of our current policy towards China: we want to manage their entrance into great power status so that they are a good citizen in the community of states as opposed to one trying to upset the world system and be a “revisionist state.”

Revisionist states can pose a big problem for states that are established, responsible stakeholders with much to gain from the status quo. Sparta was a revisionist state in relation to Athens in the Peloponnesian War. Napoleon’s France, Hitler’s Germany, and Saddam’s Iraq were all revisionist states. Iran may well be.

As is usual in the relation between established states to (potentially) revisionist, U.S. policy makers are concerned that China not pursue narrow self interest (making deals with Sudan, undercutting anti-corruption efforts in Africa, throwing up vast amounts of greenhouse gases, etc.) at the expense of systemic stability.

If that concern sounds familiar, it is because it is the same one voiced by Europeans (and Latin Americans, and many others) who see the United States as flouting international law to the point of becoming revisionist. In their eyes, the biggest challenge to international rules and systemic stability comes not from China, but from the U.S. as it sets aside established norms such as the Geneva Conventions, non-intervention, and the ABM treaty or refuses to follow-through on evolving norms to which it had previously shown at least some level of commitment (the International Criminal Court and the Kyoto Protocols, for example).

Of course revisionism is in the eye of the beholder. Is the U.S. more revisionist than China? Does it really matter? After a certain point this become more like theology than diplomacy. What is important is that some of the chief concerns animating each of our foreign policies—American, European, Latin American, and Chinese—is an anxiety over how closely the other parties will abide by the rules that we think are important. Some would argue that this is a Prisoner’s Dilemma, a zero-sum game where we cannot communicate with each other and thus must assume the worst. But the real question is: Do we want it to be?

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Seth Weinberger

The distinction between revisionist and non-revisionist, or status quo, states is meaningless if it is defined by policy choices. As you note, that makes every state a revisionist state in the eyes of each other and muddles the meaning in a swamp of relativism. What separates status-quo states from revisionist ones is not the policies they pursue, but rather the means by which they pursue them. Status quo states seek to puruse their interests within the framework of the international community and in accordance with the rules set up and accepted by that community; revisionist states pursue their interests outside that framework. Of course, even status-quo states occassionally will break the rules to do what they feel they must. So aren’t we back in the relatvistic vicious cycle Chris identifies above? No…because states have tools by which to determine the preferences of others: international institutions. By entering into a web of complementary institutions and complying with the attendent institutional obligations, states send signals of their preferences to adhere to the status-quo, and a one-time signal otherwise will not change that. Thus, status-quo states are connected by a web of meaningful (note: the UN is not a meaningful institution as it… Read more »

Patrick S. O'Donnell
Patrick S. O'Donnell

Dear Professor Weinberger, Please, pray tell, what are the sanctions that might be invoked by the Security Council if not ‘compliance-’ or ‘enforcement mechanisms’? How would you explain the following? ‘Under Chapter VII of the Charter, the Security Council can take enforcement measures to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such measures range from economic and/or other sanctions not involving the use of armed force to international military action. The use of mandatory sanctions is intended to apply pressure on a State or entity to comply with the objectives set by the Security Council without resorting to the use of force. Sanctions thus offer the Security Council an important instrument to enforce its decisions. The universal character of the United Nations makes it an especially appropriate body to establish and monitor such measures. The Council has resorted to mandatory sanctions as an enforcement tool when peace has been threatened and diplomatic efforts have failed (see below). The range of sanctions has included comprehensive economic and trade sanctions and/or more targeted measures such as arms embargoes, travel bans, financial or diplomatic restrictions. At the same time, a great number of States and humanitarian organizations have expressed concerns at the possible… Read more »

Seth Weinberger

Mr. O’Donnell:

I’d be happy to respond to you, but not here, as this is not my blog and I don’t want to hijack Chris’ post. If you’d like to discuss this more, come on over to my blog (securitydilemmas.blogspot.com), find one my posts about the UN, and repost your comment. I’ll respond to it there.

Patrick S. O'Donnell
Patrick S. O'Donnell

If anyone is interested, I’ve done as Seth has asked and posted my comment above at his blog for him to respond, although I suspect Chris might have enjoyed the exchange.