Chertoff on International Law

Chertoff on International Law

There is almost nothing in the media or the blogosphere about this story, but reportedly Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff spoke at the Federalist Society this week and was sharply critical of current trends in international law. Reuters reports that Chertoff said that “International law is being used as a rhetorical weapon against us” and that “What we see here is a vision of international law that if taken aggressively would literally strike at the heart of some of our basic fundamental principals — separation of powers, respect for the Senate’s ability to ratify treaties and … reject treaties.”

A conservative blogger in the audience took a slightly different take from the speech, reporting that “Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff stressed the need for the kind of lawyers who make up the Federalist Society to carry conservative ideas of the rule of law, democratic legitimacy and judicial restraint into the world of international law, where transnational progressive activists hold sway much as the judicial activists of the legal Left held uncontested sway in the judiciary and the academy in the years before the founding of the Federalist Society in the early 1980s. He cited specific examples of the problems international lawyers have caused for Homeland Security, including refusals to provide information about individuals entering the United States by air.”

If anyone is aware of more information about this story I would be curious precisely what Chertoff said. The reports are so sparse and undeveloped that I am reluctant to comment in detail on his speech. But I find Chertoff’s suggestion that public international lawyers and law professors are fairly homogenous in their viewpoints to be quite interesting and on the whole correct. Caution with respect to international law is not particularly welcome in our ranks, even when it is well deserved, as with constitutional comparativism. But I am happy to see growing diversity among the ranks. It seems we are moving to a second generation of public international lawyers and academics who are not so much evangelists of a movement but rather dispassionate observers of a discipline. That is a good thing. Unbridled enthusiasm is not a virtue to which an academic should aspire.

UPDATE: The full text of the speech is here. (Thanks Charles). These excerpts are particularly interesting to me:

Now I’m sure it’s an academic fantasy to imagine a world in which the writings of professors actually define the content of the law rather than what Congress passes or is agreed upon. That’s typically not, at least not in my experience, the way we make law in this country. But it is quite seriously the view taken by some that international law can be discovered in the writings of academics and others who are experts, often self-styled experts…. So what we see here is a vision of international law that if taken aggressively would literally strike at the heart of some of our basic fundamental principles: separation of power, respect for the Senate’s ability to ratify treaties, and the Senate’s ability to reject treaties, and respect for federalism and the importance of letting the state courts set their own rules to govern what they do. So where is all this leading? Well, I’m going to quote from the same international human rights lawyer [Philippe Sands] who gives us his vision of where we’re going with international law. He says in a recent book called Lawless World, “to claim that states are as sovereign today as they were 50 years ago is to ignore reality. The extent of inter-dependence caused by the avalanche of international laws means that states are constrained by international obligations over an increasingly wide range of actions, and the rules, once adopted, take on a logic and a life of their own. They do not stay within the neat boundaries that states thought they were creating when they were negotiating.” Now, I’m quite sure that is meant to be a happy statement of the way we’re operating now. But I actually view it as a chilling vision of where we could go, given the current developments in international and transnational law. So what do we do about it? Well, traditionally, we have tended to act in a manner that I would call defensive. …But while these defensive means may be necessary, they are not, in my view, a sufficient approach to this increasing challenge to our ability to conduct our domestic affairs…. So my bottom line is this: The problem is not the idea of international law, but it is an international law that has been captured by a very activist, extremist legal philosophy. But it doesn’t have to be that way. And so my challenge to you is to take overseas the same kind of intellectual vigor and intellectual argument that you brought into the United States and into academia in the United States in the ’70s, and that was quite successful over a period of time in changing the playing field, leveling it out, so that there was another voice heard for judicial modesty. I’m confident it’s not going to happen in a week or a month or a year, but that if you take some of the ideas you’ve developed here, and you take them overseas and you take them to academia, and you take them into the legal-philosophical salons in Europe, you will eventually start to persuade because the merit of these ideas I think is strong. And what’s wanting is the energy and the initiative and the courage to take them to a place where until now they have not been very seriously heard.”

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The transcript is available on the DHS website:

November 17, 2006

REMARKS BY THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY MICHAEL CHERTOFF AT THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY’S ANNUAL LAWYERS CONVENTION

http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/speeches/sp_1163798467437.shtm

Non liquet
Non liquet

I think I’m just in a bad mood today but when I read that paragraph the first thing I thought about was wishing Secretary Chertoff had spent as much time worrying about how to rescue people from a flooded New Orleans as he does about the (mythical) “legal-philosophical salons in Europe.”

Benjamin Davis
Benjamin Davis

Internal law/International Law By Benjamin Davis In a recent speech to the Federalist Society quoted in Reuters, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and formal federal judge is quoted as saying “International law is being used as a rhetorical weapon against us,” Chertoff cited members of the European Parliament in particular as harboring an “increasingly activist, left-wing and even elitist philosophy of law” at odds with American practices and interests. But he said the same pattern could be seen in the policies of the United Nations and other international bodies. “What we see here is a vision of international law that if taken aggressively would literally strike at the heart of some of our basic fundamental principals — separation of powers, respect for the Senate’s ability to ratify treaties and … reject treaties,” Chertoff said. This speech of Secretary Chertoff is a very important statement for Americans to ponder because it highlights one of the key aspects of international law – horizontal enforcement – other states (and international bodies through which those states operate) pushing one state to comply with international law obligations as each of those states determine what those obligations are. At the same time, what the vision of… Read more »

John Knox
John Knox

Chertoff’s speech is an interesting sign that U.S. political conservatives may be going beyond their campaign to keep international law out of U.S. courts (Chertoff may not know it, but that campaign isn’t exactly new), to try to strike directly against customary international law. Tactically, that’s a smart move, because CIL is international law’s weakest point. CIL is increasingly unmoored from state consent (at least in the view of international law professors and tribunals), but it hasn’t acquired a grounding on democratic legitimacy. Without either, it’s vulnerable to attack as just a plaything of international law professors, which is exactly how Chertoff portrays it.