Cheney Defends Waterboarding; KSM Wins “Admiration” of Torturers… And People Still Wonder Why the Geneva Conventions Are Necessary?

In case you haven’t seen this otherwise, here is a report from the Christian Science Monitor about Vice-President Cheney’s defense of waterboarding where he refers to it as a “no-brainer.” I wonder how John McCain is feeling now.
The Monitor quotes at length from McClatchy:

In the interview on Tuesday, Scott Hennen of WDAY Radio in Fargo, N.D., told Cheney that listeners had asked him to “let the vice president know that if it takes dunking a terrorist in water, we’re all for it, if it saves American lives.”

“Again, this debate seems a little silly given the threat we face, would you agree?” Hennen said.

“I do agree,” Cheney replied, according to a transcript of the interview released Wednesday. “And I think the terrorist threat, for example, with respect to our ability to interrogate high-value detainees like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, that’s been a very important tool that we’ve had to be able to secure the nation.”

Cheney added that Mohammed had provided “enormously valuable information about how many (al-Qaeda members) there are, about how they plan, what their training processes are and so forth. We’ve learned a lot. We need to be able to continue that.”

“Would you agree that a dunk in water is a no-brainer if it can save lives?” asked Hennen.

“It’s a no-brainer for me, but for a while there, I was criticized as being the vice president ‘for torture.’ We don’t torture. That’s not what we’re involved in,” Cheney replied. “We live up to our obligations in international treaties that we’re party to and so forth. But the fact is, you can have a fairly robust interrogation program without torture, and we need to be able to do that.“

After the quote, the Christian Science Monitor then continues:

McClatchy also reports, however, that the US Army, senior Republican lawmakers, human rights experts, and many experts on the laws of war consider the technique to be “cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment that’s banned by US law and by international treaties that prohibit torture.” Some intelligence experts also say that it is an ineffective technique that often produces false information because people subjected to waterboarding will tell their interrogators anything to stop it.

Anyway, who’s to say torture is all about confrontation? Sometimes, the torturer ends up respecting you in the process of breaking you. The Monitor report concludes:

ABCNews reported last year that CIA agents who subjected themselves to waterboarding lasted an average of 14 seconds before they “give in.” Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the so-called mastermind of 9/11, is rumored to have won the “admiration” of his interrogators when he lasted almost two-and-a-half minutes before “begging to confess.”