A Question for Ken

A Question for Ken

I do have a question for Ken.  As his post indicates, he believes that the US’s right to “self-defense” justifies drone strikes against designated terrorists outside of armed conflict — strikes that are governed by human-rights law, not international humanitarian law. Indeed, he writes that “if one takes the US’s independent self-defense view, then curiously, the CIA is on firmest legal ground in precisely the situation in which the special rapporteur would say that its legal ground is the shakiest.”  As I have pointed out before, Marko Milanovic has challenged — in my view, persuasively — the idea that the “self-defense” rationale justifies the killing, as opposed to the US’s violation of another state’s sovereignty.  Here is Marko’s argument:

But then there is more fundamental problem: what is the actual wrongfulness that is being precluded with self-defense, and can self-defense even conceivably do it?

As I see it, when the US uses a predator drone in Pakistan to kill a terrorist, it thereby commits two distinct acts which can in principle be characterized as wrongful: it violates the sovereignty of Pakistan, and it violates the right to life of the person killed. It is the wrongfulness of the former only that can be precluded by an invocation of self-defense, just like Pakistan’s (or Yemen’s, or whoever’s) consent would preclude it. But, assuming the (extraterritorial) application of human rights treaties to a given situation, I don’t see how self-defense could be used to preclude the wrongfulness of an act contrary to the individual rights enshrined in such treaties. It is indisputable, for example, that self-defense as a matter of the jus ad bellum cannot preclude the wrongfulness of the violations of the jus in bello, i.e. IHL. How could it be any different when it comes to human rights? Indeed, the ILC explicitly says so in its commentaries on the articles on state responsibility, at 74.

Thus, I don’t see how Ken’s proposed solution can actually do all the work that it needs to do. It’s one thing to say that a state can’t complain about another state violating its sovereignty when it responds to an armed attack by a non-state actor which the former state did not prevent. It’s quite another to say that individuals somehow lose their equally inherent rights just because a state exercises its inherent right to self-defense.

What states wishing to use targeted killings can argue – and have argued – to avoid this problem is that human rights treaties don’t apply at all, for example because of extraterritoriality. These arguments are, in my view, entirely unprincipled and unpersuasive, but I won’t develop that here. Assuming that a human rights treaty does apply, self-defense just doesn’t cut it. On the other hand, if the human rights treaty doesn’t apply, then the invocation of self-defense becomes redundant.

I have never seen Ken respond to this argument.  He is, I think, by far the most persuasive and fair conservative who write about these issues, so I am very curious to hear his response.

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Julian Ku

Without speaking for Ken, I thought I’d note this recent argument by Delahunty and Yoo on the ICCPR and the Law of Armed Conflict, an essay that specifically responds to an earlier Alston report.  I think their basic take is that the ICCPR should not be read to apply to any situation involving armed conflict. I guess though, this simply begs the question: Is the targeted killing of an Al Qaeda or Taliban figure in Pakistan part of an armed conflict?

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1595148

Anthony Dworkin

I agree that the use of the term “self-defence” is somewhat confusing, precisely because it is a jus ad bellum concept.  But I think it might be possible to construct a defence of drone killings outside the framework of armed conflict under human rights principles.  It is true that in normal conditions, human rights law requires that the state only deprive someone of life if it is strictly necessary to prevent an imminent attack on someone else.  But that standard is surely modified as the background situation progressively departs from normal peacetime/rule of law conditions.  In the face of a violent insurrection, it might not be a violation of the right to life to use force against someone participating in the insurrection, even if they weren’t threatening an innocent life at that moment.  This is explicitly spelled out in Article 2 (2) (c) of the European Convention on Human Rights:  “Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary…. in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection.” I think that Harold Koh and Ken Anderson’s arguments are… Read more »

Howard Gilbert
Howard Gilbert

he believes that the US’s right to “self-defense” justifies drone strikes against designated terrorists outside of armed conflict — strikes that are governed by human-rights law, not international humanitarian law. First, there is no right to strike against “designated terrorists” under international law. There is a right to strike against any of the categories of enemy combatants who are subject to military targeting: members of the regular army of an enemy state, members of the armed forces of a non-state party engaged in continuous combat operations, and civilians directly participating in armed combat. Anyone not in one of these groups is protected and not subject to combat targeting, even in an armed conflict governed by IHL. Enemy combatants falling into any of these three categories may or may not resort to terror tactics, but that is legally meaningless to the question of whether they can be targeted. Thus using the term “terrorist” in this context is playing word games and trying to insinuate a host of false assumptions into your argument without admitting that you are using them, especially when you attribute the term to someone whose argument you are criticizing. There are a variety of states of hostility short… Read more »

Howard Gilbert
Howard Gilbert

First, there are no members of al Qaeda. There were soldiers in the Afghan army who were recruited, trained, and equipped by al Qaeda, but they were members of the Afghan army, not members of al Qaeda. IHL applies to members of any enemy military unit associated with the Afghan government in exile in the Tribal Areas of Pakistan or their allies. To be part of a military unit you have to join up and go through basic training at a camp in Pakistan or one of the camps they have set up in more remote locations like Yemen and Somalia. Then IHL only applies and you can only be targeted while you are engaged in continuous combat function (which does not mean actual combat but may involve preparation, training, or planning attacks). Someone who makes a clean break with continuous combat function by leaving the military unit to do fund-raising or public relations cannot be targeted while he has ceased combat functions, even if that break is temporary. Just because you are part of the Afghan army in exile does not require you to have ever set foot in Afghanistan. De Gaulle’s Free French spent most of WWII in… Read more »

Howard Gilbert
Howard Gilbert

We are not talking about “self defense” in the domestic criminal justice sense, but even in military law there are two levels of self defense. Strategic jus ad bellum self defense justifies the use of military force in a conflict that does not rise to the level of an armed conflict, like the exchange of fire across a DMZ. Tactical jus in bello self defense justifies the use of military force by a warship when an unidentified small boat is approaching and fails to stop when challenged. In force protection situations, one should make every effort to identify the target but it is not a war crime to defend yourself from an obvious threat even if it is subsequently determined that you used force against protected civilians. When President Clinton fired cruise missiles into Afghanistan in response to the attacks on the US Embassies in Africa, this was an example of strategic self defense because the US did not regard it as serious enough to trigger an armed conflict. Had drones been available at the time, he might have been able to order a more effectively targeted response. In this context, Ken’s self defense argument justifies the dispatch of the… Read more »