The Network of Terror and the Network of Law

The Network of Terror and the Network of Law

Over at NPR’s Justice Talking blog, I have a post trying to tie together some ideas relating to Fourth Generation Warfare and the rule of law.

Here’s the opening:

One of the tropes of the current Administration is that the Global War on Terror is a new kind of war and a new kind of war needs new rules. This has been the heart of arguments supporting “enhanced” interrogation techniques, detaining suspects without charge in Guantanamo and elsewhere, easing of restrictions on domestic wiretapping, and the use of military commissions to try suspected terrorists, among other policies. But does this claim of a new war requiring new rules hold up under scrutiny?

Any comments (either here or at Justice Talking) would be welcome.

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Benjamin Davis
Benjamin Davis

I’ll jump in (as usual). The first thing I did in thinking about this after 9/11 was to read Grotius’ Laws of War and Laws of Peace. In it he speaks of wars between princes and private men going back to antiquity. The communications revolution certainly permits coordinated efforts by private persons around the world in a decentralized network but aren’t we seeing the state do the same? For example, rather than a gulag in a place we can now have the virtual moving gulag where the place someone is held is a room in a building in one country, a soviet era base in another, and a prison in Mauretania. We should not spend so much time focusing on the risks of non-state actors in this war to belittle the enormous power that states have to work together to counteract those non-state actors. The question (I would say it is the fundamental enlightenment question we confront) is banding together to do what? To go back to colonial style destruction of populations, reprisals, etc like the Herrero in Southwest Africa at the turn of the 20th century or the Belgians in the Congo? I would encourage people to do what… Read more »

Benjamin Davis
Benjamin Davis

I also would like to say that sometimes I am acerbic in my comments here or may be perceived as that, but I do appreciate the chance provided by the exchanges that you put up here to discuss or raise concerns. It helps me in my research and in my thinking about international law.

Best,

Ben

Seth Weinberger

Chris: Very interesting post. I agree with almost all of your ideas; the only place I differ is on your conclusion that 4GW cannot threaten the existence of the state. On one level, that’s true: al Qaeda and other international terrorists will never destroy the American infrastructure or occupy the US as happened to Germany during WWII. But that’s not quite the right metric as the real threat from terrorism is from the reaction of the state to the attacks. The US is uniquely ill-suited to respond to terrorism in a calm, rational fashion, due to the media, civil libertarians, governmental structure and incentives, public opinion, et cetera, et cetera. We need to take steps to change that reaction, but we also need to be realistic about how the US will react to the next attack. To that end, while I don’t support many/most of the policies implemented by the Bush Administration, I do recognize the need to make reasonable and appropriate trade-offs. For example, I support the domestic wiretapping program (with appropriate congressional authorization and oversight) as a reasonable and necessary encroachment on domestic liberty. The same logic and thinking needs to be applied to international law. The Geneva… Read more »

HowardGilbert
HowardGilbert

This is not a new type of war, but a very old one. When 19 members of an al Qaeda special operations unit hijacked airliners, they became “pirates” under international law. A pirate has always been a member of a private (non-state) military organization that depended on out-gunning regular merchant ships. The only way to defeat them was to send regular military forces in a Ship of the Line. The law was fairly simple. Captured pirates received a short military trial and were then hung from the yardarm. Nobody imagined they were entitled to civilian justice. Nobody claimed that the British government or its democratic institutions were diminished when captured pirates faced summary justice. If Britain and the US have survived for 300 years with that history, we will survive the next few years. Do not confuse the current war on al Qaeda pirates with some ambiguous war on “terrorism”. The 9/11 attack was a military attack on the Pentagon and a major economic/industrial target conducted by a force that methods banned by international law. Terrorists blow up schools, pizza parlors, and Oklahoma City Federal Buildings. If al Qaeda had F-16s and used them to attack the Pentagon and World… Read more »

Matthew Gross
Matthew Gross

The 9/11 attack was a military attack on the Pentagon and a major economic/industrial targetconducted by a force that methods banned by international law. Terrorists blow up schools, pizza parlors, and Oklahoma City Federal Buildings. If al Qaeda had F-16s and used them to attack the Pentagon and World Trade Center, we would have trouble distinguishing their attacks from any the US has conducted in our recent wars.

I really don’t know if the WTC would count as a legitimate target even assuming Al Qaeda had obeyed the rules of war. Its use was in no way military, and the equivalent economic disruption could probably have been caused by murdering the equivalent number of American businessmen in some other location, which would appear to be a violation of the laws of war.

HowardGilbert
HowardGilbert

The second group of 61 targets expanded the first group and added storage facilities, railway assets, vital rail/highway bridges, and, most importantly, the mining of North Vietnam’s ports. This target set was pivotal. As was appreciated at the time, 85 percent of North Vietnam’s military imports came by sea, primarily through Haiphong–a prime candidate for mining. [18] Most of the remainder entered via the northeast and northwest rail lines to China. As Sir Robert Thompson, renowned British counterinsurgency expert, noted, “In all the insurgencies of the past twenty-five years, since the Second World War, none has been sustained, let alone successful, without substantial outside support.” [The JCS 94-Target List – U.S. air warfare strategy in Vietnam War Aerospace Power Journal, Spring, 2001 by Charles Tustin Kamps] Facilities involved in trade, particularly strategic imports, have been a primary target of US bombing strategy. Obviously there is a big difference between the economic impact of continued US bombing in Hanoi and the one time strike on the WTC. However, the legitimacy under international law of a bombing target depends on its type, not the strategic effectiveness of the attack. Clearly the Windows on the World restaurant was civilian, but there is collateral… Read more »